Transcription: Virtue is not photogenic. I mean you don't see her making a movie just about... I mean when I think of... I mean if you make a movie about a noble guy, I've done a few of them, Spartacus was a noble guy, but it has to be in conflict. You know? I don't know if it's Romeo the Brave, he's a really noble guy, it has to be in conflict. But movies like Champions, you know, movies like Bad and the Beautiful, Ace in the Hole, these are all... See, all the... they weren't nice guys, but I always saw something in them. You see, I don't think they were just bad guys. They were greedy.
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